Błąd 17965, notlauf. Proszę o analizę logów

[spanky]

wszytkie opisane wyzej przypadki sugeruja ze suszarki macie do wyczyszczenia ...

[jockermn]

Witam mam problem z turbawka! lapie notlaufa tak przy z 140 a czasem nawet przy 80! Podkreslam ze turbo miesiac temu bylo wymienione na nowe i wszystko bylo ok! Zawor n75 byl sprawdzany przy wymianie i byl dobry? Przeplywka byla czyszczona ale nie daje mi spokoju! Ponizej przesylam logi na 3 i 4biegu krecone do 3700 bo slisko troche..

pozdrawiam i proszeo odpowiedz...

Tuesday,22,December,2009,11:08:26
038 906 012 A ,, 1.9l R4 EDC 0000SG 2801,

,Group A:,'003,,,,Group B:,'008,,,,Group C:,'011
,,Engine speed,MAF (specified),MAF (actual),EGR duty cycle,,Engine speed,I.Q. Driver's req.,I.Q. via rpm(Torq),I.Q. via air mass,,Engine speed,Specified MAP,Actual MAP,D.cycle MAP v.
,TIME,870-950 rpm,230-370 mg/H,230-370 mg/H,40-75%,TIME,rpm,40.0-42.0 mg/H,35.5-36.5 mg/H,36.0-39.0 mg/H,TIME,rpm,1850-1950 mbar,1700-2080 mbar,45-95%
MARKER,STAMP, /min, mg/R, mg/R, %,STAMP, /min, mg/R, mg/R, mg/R,STAMP, /min, mbar, mbar, %
,0.80,1428,540.0,470.0,19.9,0.00,1323,23.6,37.4,25 .6,0.40,1386,1295.4,1040.4,24.7
,2.00,1554,450.0,480.0,27.9,1.20,1470,20.6,38.4,26 .6,1.60,1512,1203.6,1101.6,33.5
,3.20,1764,640.0,565.0,19.9,2.38,1596,21.2,39.0,27 .0,2.80,1680,1519.8,1152.6,25.5
,4.38,1995,630.0,670.0,22.3,3.60,1827,28.2,41.0,32 .4,4.00,1911,1570.8,1346.4,32.3
,5.60,2163,560.0,570.0,57.4,4.80,2058,26.8,42.0,38 .8,5.18,2100,1407.6,1540.2,53.0
,6.80,2520,780.0,890.0,4.8,6.00,2247,34.4,42.0,39. 0,6.40,2415,1948.2,1693.2,42.2
,8.00,2709,725.0,790.0,53.0,7.20,2562,35.0,41.4,42 .6,7.60,2625,1774.8,2101.2,66.1
,9.18,3066,850.0,975.0,4.8,8.40,2835,42.0,41.0,42. 4,8.80,2919,1948.2,2244.0,74.9
,10.40,3318,850.0,990.0,4.8,9.60,3192,43.8,40.6,42 .4,10.00,3297,1948.2,2499.0,94.4
,11.68,3717,850.0,925.0,4.8,10.88,3528,43.4,40.0,4 2.2,11.28,3612,1948.2,2509.2,94.4
,12.88,2646,825.0,850.0,4.8,12.08,3087,0.0,40.6,38 .4,12.48,2835,1948.2,1540.2,56.6
,14.08,2604,280.0,455.0,4.8,13.28,2625,9.4,41.2,38 .2,13.68,2583,1173.0,1509.6,44.6
,15.28,2499,275.0,430.0,4.8,14.48,2562,0.0,41.4,21 .6,14.88,2541,1173.0,1091.4,38.6
,16.48,2436,275.0,425.0,4.8,15.68,2478,0.0,41.4,21 .2,16.08,2457,1162.8,1050.6,38.6
,17.68,2394,270.0,420.0,4.8,16.88,2415,0.0,41.6,21 .4,17.28,2394,1162.8,1040.4,38.3
,18.88,2226,260.0,430.0,4.8,18.08,2352,0.0,41.8,21 .6,18.48,2268,1152.6,1030.2,38.3
,20.08,2163,260.0,430.0,4.8,19.26,2184,0.0,42.0,22 .6,19.68,2163,1142.4,1020.0,38.6
,21.28,2163,260.0,435.0,4.8,20.48,2142,0.0,42.0,22 .6,20.88,2142,1142.4,1009.8,38.6
,22.48,2142,305.0,430.0,79.7,21.68,2163,0.0,42.0,2 2.4,22.08,2142,1142.4,999.6,38.6
,23.68,2226,755.0,570.0,4.8,22.88,2142,10.6,42.0,1 4.6,23.28,2184,1713.6,1060.8,29.1
,24.87,2394,850.0,865.0,4.8,24.08,2268,34.8,41.8,3 7.6,24.47,2331,1948.2,1621.8,47.0
,26.07,2583,850.0,940.0,4.8,25.27,2436,44.4,41.6,4 2.8,25.67,2541,1948.2,2091.0,63.8
,27.27,2730,850.0,950.0,4.8,26.47,2625,44.2,41.2,4 3.0,26.87,2667,1948.2,2213.4,74.9
,28.47,2856,850.0,955.0,4.8,27.67,2772,44.2,41.0,4 2.8,28.07,2835,1948.2,2264.4,85.3
,29.67,2835,305.0,875.0,68.5,28.87,2919,41.4,40.8, 42.8,29.27,3045,1948.2,2315.4,94.4
,30.87,2688,290.0,440.0,4.8,30.07,2877,0.0,41.0,27 .2,30.47,2814,1173.0,1275.0,38.6
,32.07,2310,265.0,435.0,4.8,31.27,2562,0.0,41.4,21 .2,31.67,2415,1162.8,1060.8,38.6
,33.27,1995,255.0,445.0,4.8,32.47,2226,0.0,42.0,22 .4,32.87,2121,1142.4,1030.2,38.6
,34.47,1701,250.0,420.0,4.8,33.67,1911,0.0,42.0,23 .8,34.07,1806,1081.2,1009.8,38.3
,35.67,1596,250.0,410.0,4.8,34.87,1659,0.0,39.4,24 .2,35.27,1638,1060.8,989.4,36.7
,36.87,1365,250.0,410.0,4.8,36.07,1512,0.0,38.6,24 .0,36.47,1428,1060.8,979.2,35.5
,38.07,966,270.0,285.0,71.3,37.27,1281,0.0,37.2,24 .8,37.67,1092,1060.8,979.2,24.7
,39.27,903,270.0,260.0,61.0,38.47,903,0.0,31.4,23. 6,38.87,903,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,40.47,882,270.0,235.0,55.8,39.67,903,0.0,31.2,23. 6,40.07,945,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,41.67,903,270.0,260.0,63.8,40.87,903,0.0,31.2,24. 0,41.27,903,1060.8,948.6,24.7
,42.87,903,275.0,275.0,59.8,42.07,903,0.0,31.2,23. 8,42.47,903,1060.8,948.6,24.7
,44.07,903,270.0,270.0,62.6,43.27,903,0.0,31.4,23. 6,43.67,903,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,45.27,903,270.0,270.0,59.8,44.47,903,0.0,31.4,23. 4,44.87,903,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,46.55,903,270.0,265.0,59.4,45.67,903,0.0,31.4,23. 4,46.07,903,1060.8,948.6,24.7
,47.75,903,270.0,260.0,62.2,46.95,903,0.0,31.4,23. 6,47.35,903,1060.8,948.6,24.7
,48.95,861,290.0,325.0,56.2,48.15,903,0.0,31.2,23. 6,48.55,882,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,50.15,924,505.0,410.0,21.9,49.35,945,4.8,31.8,25. 0,49.75,966,1091.4,948.6,24.7
,51.35,945,290.0,400.0,42.6,50.55,903,7.0,31.2,24. 8,50.95,882,1081.2,969.0,24.7
,52.55,903,275.0,280.0,62.6,51.75,945,0.0,31.8,22. 4,52.15,903,1060.8,958.8,24.7
,93.42,1785,590.0,465.0,33.5,93.82,1827,35.2,41.0, 28.0,93.02,1764,1213.8,989.4,31.1
,94.62,2016,835.0,635.0,4.8,95.02,2121,42.6,42.0,3 9.8,94.22,1911,1938.0,1213.8,24.7
,95.82,2310,800.0,815.0,4.8,96.22,2436,37.2,41.6,4 2.4,95.42,2226,1948.2,1642.2,37.9
,97.02,2394,670.0,720.0,55.8,97.42,2457,28.8,41.6, 38.6,96.61,2394,1591.2,1856.4,75.3
,98.22,2604,770.0,820.0,4.8,98.62,2646,35.2,41.2,4 2.4,97.82,2520,1836.0,1703.4,41.4
,99.42,2793,800.0,900.0,4.8,99.82,2835,34.8,41.0,4 2.2,99.02,2709,1948.2,2050.2,59.4
,100.60,3066,850.0,895.0,4.8,101.02,3108,34.2,40.6 ,41.8,100.22,2898,1887.0,2091.0,66.1
,101.82,3003,780.0,815.0,4.8,102.22,3087,32.0,40.6 ,41.6,101.42,2982,1581.0,2029.8,81.3
,103.02,3192,705.0,825.0,4.8,103.42,3213,27.8,40.6 ,41.0,102.62,3213,1764.6,2070.6,90.8
,104.22,3381,845.0,820.0,4.8,104.62,3318,32.2,40.4 ,41.0,103.82,3297,1948.2,2009.4,81.3
,105.42,3507,850.0,815.0,4.8,105.82,3591,0.0,39.8, 40.6,105.02,3402,1948.2,2101.2,91.2
,106.62,2394,825.0,665.0,4.8,107.02,2478,40.4,41.4 ,41.8,106.22,2856,1173.0,1642.2,38.6
,107.82,2520,830.0,925.0,4.8,108.22,2499,25.4,41.4 ,42.8,107.42,2457,1948.2,1978.8,57.8
,109.02,2478,275.0,460.0,79.7,109.42,2457,0.0,41.6 ,23.8,108.62,2499,1264.8,1938.0,94.4
,110.22,2373,270.0,435.0,4.8,110.62,2310,0.0,41.8, 22.0,109.82,2415,1162.8,1122.0,38.6
,111.42,2142,260.0,435.0,4.8,111.82,2058,0.0,42.0, 23.6,111.02,2226,1142.4,1050.6,38.6
,112.62,1911,255.0,430.0,4.8,113.02,1869,0.0,41.4, 24.0,112.22,1974,1132.2,1020.0,38.6

[netes]

Wklej ten log w jakimś normalnym formacie, na tym ciężko coś przeczytać.

[jaro860929]

popraw logi
ale i tak widać ze znowu jest tryb awaryjny

[jockermn]

dzięki za info logi poprawie i wrzuce na forum! Narazie wszystko jest ok nie lapie muła! Troche ją dzisiaj pokręciłem i wszystko bylo tak jak trzeba Po wymianie turbiny(byla zatarta) oszczędzałem nową rzadko przekraczałem 3tys obr. może to jest przyczyną problemów....?

[MaGGu]

Kierownicy się przycięły. Nie można jeździć Tdi w taki sposób aby unikać obrotów większych jak 3 tys, zwłaszcza w turbinie ze zmienna geometria. Co jakiś czas trzeba przeciągnąć go powyżej 4 tys przy pełnym bucie, tak aby żaluzję się nie przypiekały od nagaru.

[jockermn]

Czesc! Dzisiaj znowu zlapalem notlaufa! Zrobilem nowe logi i chyba nie jest dobrze! Prosze powiedzcie cos na temat przeplywki! bo z dolu tez kiepsko idzie!

Pozdro i Wesołych Swiat

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1557/logit.jpg

[jockermn]

Dzięki za wszystkie podpowiedzi! Turbinka wyczyszczona, kolektor i egr też. Wyciąłem katalizator bo był całkowicie zapchany, teraz autko fruwa jak trzeba

[kaito20]

Czy podczas własnorecznego czyszczenia turbo nie trzeba specjalnego wywazania czy czegos takiego co ma miejsce podczas "profesjonalnej" regeneracji? Planuje sam wyczyscic turbo i niechcialbym zeby okazalo sie, ze trzeba ja dostroic zeby sie nie rozpadla. Bo taki zabieg mija sie z celem.

[sl500]

Koledzy podepnę się pod temat, z logów wynika że mam spore przeładowanie, kierownica chodzi bez zarzutów, czy to wina n73 ?

logi kanału 11 na 4 biegu:
Log (0 - 011)