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Nowe turbo ARL łapie notlaufa na 5 biegu przy 210


Wednesday,15,September,2010,20:53:28
038 906 019 CK ,,1.9l R4 EDC G000SG 1477,

,Group A:,'010,,,,Group B:,'011,,,,Group C:,'003
,,MAF,Atmos. pressure,Intake air press.,Throttle,,Engine speed,Spec. intake press.,Actual intake press.,D.cycle MAP,,Engine speed,MAF (specified),MAF (actual),EGR duty cycle
,TIME,900-1250,sensor -f96-,2100-2600,100%,TIME,2850-3150,2200-2400,2100-2600,35-80%,TIME,790-870,230-310,210-350,40-75%
MARKER,STAMP, mg/R, mbar,,%,STAMP, /min, mbar,, %,STAMP, /min, mg/R, mg/R, %
,0.02,485.1,979.2,1146.6,0.0,0.52,2478,1020.0,1134 .9,48.2,1.06,2520,850.0,739.9,4.8
,1.61,1200.5,979.2,2433.6,100.0,2.15,2835,2499.0,2 515.5,66.5,2.70,3024,850.0,1097.6,4.8
,3.23,1078.0,979.2,2503.8,100.0,3.79,3339,2488.8,2 468.7,70.1,4.34,3507,850.0,1038.8,4.8
,4.91,1024.1,979.2,2468.7,100.0,5.47,3801,2448.0,2 468.7,74.5,6.00,3927,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,6.37,999.6,979.2,2480.4,100.0,6.79,4137,2376.6,24 80.4,82.5,7.27,4221,850.0,994.7,4.8
,7.80,984.9,979.2,2492.1,100.0,8.36,4284,1122.0,23 04.9,53.8,8.93,3234,850.0,999.6,4.8
,9.47,999.6,979.2,2398.5,100.0,10.01,3360,2488.8,2 410.2,70.1,10.57,3423,850.0,999.6,4.8
,11.12,1014.3,979.2,2468.7,100.0,11.66,3549,2478.6 ,2468.7,71.7,12.05,3612,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,12.41,1004.5,979.2,2492.1,100.0,12.78,3696,2468.4 ,2492.1,74.1,13.15,3717,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,13.52,1014.3,979.2,2527.2,100.0,13.97,3801,2448.0 ,2527.2,78.9,14.48,3843,850.0,1009.4,4.8
,15.00,1014.3,979.2,2550.6,100.0,15.51,3948,2417.4 ,2562.3,87.7,16.07,3990,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,16.61,1004.5,979.2,2574.0,100.0,17.15,4095,2346.0 ,2585.7,98.4,17.53,4137,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,17.90,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,18.28,4221,2295.0, 2574.0,98.4,18.67,4242,850.0,994.7,4.8
,19.04,994.7,979.2,2562.3,100.0,19.40,4305,2254.2, 2562.3,98.4,19.76,4326,850.0,989.8,4.8
,20.12,975.1,979.2,2550.6,100.0,20.50,4389,2193.0, 2538.9,98.4,21.00,4410,850.0,970.2,4.8
,21.51,960.4,979.2,2515.5,100.0,22.03,4494,2131.8, 2445.3,98.0,22.58,4515,850.0,901.6,4.8
,23.07,877.1,979.2,2328.3,100.0,23.44,4557,2060.4, 2281.5,95.2,23.83,4578,850.0,862.4,4.8
,24.20,847.7,979.2,2246.4,100.0,24.56,4620,2009.4, 2234.7,98.4,24.92,4620,850.0,837.9,4.8
,25.28,833.0,979.2,2199.6,100.0,25.64,4662,1978.8, 2176.2,95.2,26.00,4662,850.0,823.2,4.8
,26.38,818.3,979.2,2152.8,100.0,26.77,4683,1948.2, 2141.1,96.8,27.14,4704,850.0,803.6,4.8
,27.55,798.7,979.2,2106.0,100.0,28.04,4725,1917.6, 2094.3,97.6,28.59,4725,850.0,784.0,4.8
,28.96,779.1,979.2,2059.2,100.0,29.32,5082,1866.6, 2035.8,84.5,29.69,3864,850.0,847.7,4.8
,30.08,955.5,979.2,2328.3,100.0,30.44,3843,2417.4, 2492.1,96.4,30.82,3885,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,31.21,1019.2,979.2,2562.3,100.0,31.58,3906,2397.0 ,2562.3,98.4,31.96,3927,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,32.35,1014.3,979.2,2574.0,100.0,32.72,3948,2386.8 ,2574.0,98.4,33.09,3969,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,33.50,1019.2,979.2,2585.7,100.0,33.87,3990,2386.8 ,2585.7,98.4,34.27,4011,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,34.69,1019.2,979.2,2585.7,100.0,35.03,4032,2376.6 ,2585.7,98.4,35.44,4032,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,35.83,1009.4,979.2,2597.4,100.0,36.22,4053,2366.4 ,2597.4,98.4,36.61,4074,850.0,1009.4,4.8
,36.97,1009.4,979.2,2597.4,100.0,37.34,4095,2366.4 ,2597.4,98.4,37.72,4095,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,38.12,1014.3,979.2,2597.4,100.0,38.53,4116,2356.2 ,2585.7,98.4,38.93,4137,850.0,1009.4,4.8
,39.32,1009.4,979.2,2597.4,100.0,39.73,4158,2346.0 ,2597.4,98.4,40.12,4158,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,40.48,1014.3,979.2,2597.4,100.0,40.85,4179,2335.8 ,2597.4,98.4,41.26,4179,850.0,1014.3,4.8
,41.69,1004.5,979.2,2585.7,100.0,42.15,4200,2315.4 ,2585.7,98.4,42.63,4200,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,43.14,1004.5,979.2,2585.7,100.0,43.65,4221,2295.0 ,2597.4,98.4,44.18,4221,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,44.72,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,45.28,4242,2284.8, 2585.7,98.4,45.77,4242,850.0,999.6,4.8
,46.32,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,46.88,4242,2274.6, 2585.7,98.4,47.44,4242,850.0,1004.5,4.8
,48.00,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,48.56,4263,2274.6, 2585.7,98.4,49.12,4263,850.0,994.7,4.8
,49.68,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,50.24,4263,2274.6, 2585.7,98.4,50.80,4263,850.0,999.6,4.8
,51.36,999.6,979.2,2585.7,100.0,51.93,4263,2274.6, 2585.7,98.4,52.48,4263,850.0,950.6,4.8
,53.02,681.1,979.2,2000.7,100.0,53.58,4179,2295.0, 1439.1,92.4,54.13,4137,850.0,499.8,4.8
,54.67,509.6,979.2,1298.7,100.0,55.24,4053,2346.0, 1287.0,92.4,55.80,4011,850.0,499.8,4.8
,56.35,509.6,979.2,1287.0,100.0,56.89,3948,2417.4, 1275.3,92.4,57.46,3906,850.0,504.7,4.8
,58.02,396.9,979.2,1123.2,0.0,58.57,3801,2448.0,10 76.4,92.4,59.14,3780,850.0,485.1,4.8
,59.68,494.9,979.2,1216.8,0.0,60.24,3717,2458.2,10 76.4,92.4,60.79,3675,850.0,485.1,4.8






,Group A:,'010,,,,Group B:,'011,,,,Group C:,'003
,,MAF,Atmos. pressure,Intake air press.,Throttle,,Engine speed,Spec. intake press.,Actual intake press.,D.cycle MAP,,Engine speed,MAF (specified),MAF (actual),EGR duty cycle
,TIME,900-1250,sensor -f96-,2100-2600,100%,TIME,2850-3150,2200-2400,2100-2600,35-80%,TIME,790-870,230-310,210-350,40-75%
MARKER,STAMP, mg/R, mbar,,%,STAMP, /min, mbar,, %,STAMP, /min, mg/R, mg/R, %
,0.65,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,1.20,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,1.75,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,2.27,480.2,979.2,1029.6,0.0,2.63,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,2.99,903,265.0,470.4,84.5
,3.37,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,3.75,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,4.13,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,4.49,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,4.87,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,5.25,903,265.0,480.2,84.5
,5.63,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,5.99,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,6.35,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,6.73,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,7.15,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,7.63,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,8.09,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,8.47,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,8.83,903,265.0,470.4,84.5
,9.20,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,9.56,903,1071.0,1029. 6,24.7,9.92,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,10.28,455.7,979.2,1029.6,0.0,10.64,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,11.00,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,11.36,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,11.75,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,12.13,903,265.0,470.4,84.5
,12.50,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,12.86,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,13.22,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,13.61,450.8,979.2,1029.6,0.0,13.94,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,14.29,903,265.0,475.3,84.5
,14.65,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,15.01,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,15.38,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,15.78,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,16.15,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,16.52,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,16.91,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,17.27,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,17.65,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,18.08,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,18.53,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,18.95,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,19.41,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,19.91,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,20.40,903,265.0,475.3,84.5
,20.95,455.7,979.2,1029.6,0.0,21.51,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,22.07,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,22.61,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,23.17,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,23.72,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,24.28,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,24.83,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,25.39,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,25.94,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,26.49,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,27.05,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,27.61,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,28.15,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,28.70,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,29.27,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,29.83,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,30.39,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,30.94,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,31.51,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,32.07,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,32.62,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,33.16,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,33.73,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,34.28,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,34.84,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,35.38,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,35.95,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,36.50,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,37.05,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,37.59,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,38.14,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,38.68,903,265.0,455.7,84.5
,39.25,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,39.81,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,40.36,903,265.0,470.4,84.5
,40.90,455.7,979.2,1029.6,0.0,41.47,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,42.01,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,42.56,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,43.12,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,43.67,903,265.0,465.5,84.5
,44.23,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,44.79,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,45.34,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,45.91,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,46.45,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,47.01,903,265.0,460.6,84.5
,47.56,450.8,979.2,1029.6,0.0,47.95,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,48.33,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,48.74,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,49.23,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,49.78,903,265.0,470.4,4.8
,50.35,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,50.89,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,51.45,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,52.00,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,52.54,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,53.11,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,53.57,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,53.94,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,54.32,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,54.69,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,55.06,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,55.48,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,55.95,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,56.48,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,57.04,903,265.0,470.4,4.8
,57.60,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,58.16,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,58.72,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,59.20,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,59.58,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,59.97,903,265.0,470.4,4.8
,60.34,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,60.72,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,61.08,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,61.46,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,61.83,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,62.21,903,265.0,455.7,4.8
,62.63,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,63.12,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,63.68,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,64.23,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,64.78,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,65.16,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,65.55,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,65.92,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,66.30,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,66.67,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,67.05,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,67.42,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,67.80,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,68.19,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,68.56,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,68.94,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,69.35,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,69.83,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,70.37,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,70.80,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,71.16,903,265.0,455.7,4.8
,71.55,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,71.92,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,72.30,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,72.69,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,73.06,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,73.44,903,265.0,475.3,4.8
,73.80,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,74.17,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,74.55,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,74.92,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,75.31,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,75.67,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,76.05,460.6,979.2,1029.6,0.0,76.42,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,76.76,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,77.12,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,77.50,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,77.89,903,265.0,470.4,4.8
,78.26,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,78.64,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,79.02,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,79.40,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,79.78,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,80.17,903,265.0,470.4,4.8
,80.58,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,80.94,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,81.30,903,270.0,475.3,4.8
,81.68,455.7,979.2,1029.6,0.0,82.08,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,82.45,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,82.82,470.4,979.2,1029.6,0.0,83.27,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,83.74,903,265.0,465.5,4.8
,84.20,465.5,979.2,1029.6,0.0,84.68,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,85.22,903,265.0,460.6,4.8
,85.78,475.3,979.2,1029.6,0.0,86.34,903,1071.0,102 9.6,24.7,86.90,903,265.0,455.7,4.8

[MaGGu]

ja jeb.. wklej te logi na http://vaglog.rtnet.pl/ i podaj link, bo teraz to nic nie widać.

[lookas]

dzieki Maggu


http://vaglog.rtnet.pl/looookasz_22444.html

http://vaglog.rtnet.pl/looookasz_22445.html

[Sztomel]

jest problem z regulacją ciśnienia doładowania, łapie turbo na przeładowaniu i wchodzi w tryb awaryjny, musisz zdjąć sztangę z dźwigni kierownic spalin i sprawdzić co się przycina :
sztanga w gruszce czy zmienna geometria czyli odpiąć actuator rod z dźwigni VNT lever i osobno sprawdzić jak pracuje actuator rod a jak VNT lever :

[lookas]

no chyba nie bardzo bo turbo jest na gwarancji i są plomby garreta na śrubach (lakier) a turbo jest świeże ok miesiąca

[bogumilt]

Na moje nie fachowe oko kilka opcji...

I. Uwalony n75
II. Zwalony soft ecu.. A generalnie program dopasowany do turbiny z zatartą geometrią...

Oczywiście jeżeli twoje turbo jest wpełni wartościwe...
III. załamany wężyk podciśnienia


Proponuje sprawdzić podciśnienie, Ecu, N75.

[kupiec997]

obstawiam punkt numer 2

[lookas]

nowe logi i co teraz sądzicie ?
http://vaglog.rtnet.pl/looookasz_28174.html
http://vaglog.rtnet.pl/looookasz_28173.html

[Sztomel]

po co logujesz po trzy grupy jednocześnie ?
Nie dość, że takie logi stają się mniej czytelne bo próbkowanie odczytów jest rzadsze to jeszcze przy problemie z turbodoładowaniem logujesz grupę 013 - w jakim celu ?
Podobnie w statycznych - nie loguje się statycznie grupy 008 bo nie ma to żadnego sensu.
Jeśli już to loguj po 2 grupy łącznie ale w celu ustalenia przyczyny problemów z turbodoładowaniem loguje się tylko i wyłącznie grupy 003, 008 i 011 w konfiguracjach : 003 z 011, 008 z 011 i 003 z 008.
W tych nowych logach turbo wolniej osiąga zadane ciśnienie, potem idzie w parze z zadanym a następnie znowu przeładowuje i z pewnością nie jest to wina N75 czy też załamanych lub przetartych wężyków podciśnieniowych.

[lookas]

Jeśli już to loguj po 2 grupy łącznie ale w celu ustalenia przyczyny problemów z turbodoładowaniem loguje się tylko i wyłącznie grupy 003, 008 i 011 w konfiguracjach : 003 z 011, 008 z 011 i 003 z 008.

te dynamicznie a statycznie tylko 003 i 011?